Skip to main content

Joseph Smith was an Elite Atheist (Part One)

What is it that drives us as human beings? We view the world through a particular lens, some of us defining it as we search for truth and others seem to view the world without searching hard at all. What are the answers to the big questions: Where did we come from? What is my purpose in life? What happens when we die? It seems that the way Joseph Smith viewed the world can be answered by taking a peek into his short time here on earth.

It appears that he had some strange beliefs about where we come from. Consider the following teaching about God:

“We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did, and I will show it from the Bible” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith 345-346).

Let’s look at this for a moment. Joseph Smith wants to teach that God was once a man like us? So in the mind of Joseph Smith, there is an infinite number of planets out there, because there must be an infinite number of Gods populating them. In order for Smith’s idea to work, there has to be an infinite number of gods populating an infinite number of planets, from an infinite amount of time in the past.
William Lane Craig explains that Persian philosopher, Abū Ḥāmid Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad al-Ghazālī, believed that we cannot really have an actual infinite number of anything (let alone, Gods). In other words, “Ghazālī had no problem with the existence of merely potential infinites, for these are just ideal limits. But when we come to an actual infinite, we’re dealing with a collection that is not growing toward infinity as a limit but is already complete” (Craig, On Guard 79). What this means is that an unlimited number of Gods is impossible because in Mormonism, people continue to become gods all the time. If they are adding to the number of infinite gods, then the number cannot be infinite in the first place.
It is the same with time. In order for the doctrine of gods in Mormonism to work, there has to be an infinite amount of time (at least past-time), because to a Mormon, there is no sole, powerful, creator who made the universe in which we live. According to Mormonism, the universe always existed (D&C 93:33), and gods are basically reduced to alien-humans who were good enough to become gods from other planets. But there are several issues with this. One is that an infinite amount of time cannot exist, since we haven’t yet experienced tomorrow, but yesterday we have experienced, and we know that tomorrow is going to happen, Lord willing, which is the moment in the space-time continuum where time itself is bound. In order for an infinite amount of time to exist, it would have to be a complete set of infinite time, but because tomorrow itself does not yet exist, it proves that an infinite set amount of time is not reality.
Mormonism teaches an infinite number of gods. Think about it, if God populated a planet of billions of people who have the potential to become gods of their own planets and do the same thing (Which our Creator supposedly came from a planet near the made-up star, “Kolob,” once being a man like us), then there would have to be an infinite number of planets as well, at least accumulating at the speed of the number of people who die and have the chance to become gods of their own planets. You’re probably thinking, “this is absurd!” by now, and you would be correct. An actual infinite number of anything cannot exist.
The point in all of this is that everything in the space-time continuum has to have a beginning. The universe, in which all of these planets exist in the mind of Joseph Smith, has to have a beginning. Since there is a beginning, there cannot be an infinite amount of past time. If there cannot be an infinite amount of time, there cannot be an infinite amount of planets and as such, there cannot be an infinite amount of gods.
So what else brings me to the idea that Joseph Smith is an atheist? Because just as C. S. Lewis talks about Jesus (Mere Christianity book 2, Ch. 3), Joseph Smith can in a similar manner, only be a liar, a lunatic, or who he says he is, which is a prophet of God.
There are several questions we must raise about this, however. For instance, a prophet of God would likely not be inspired to translate a word of God in a language that was not spoken at the time of the interpretation. The Book of Mormon was translated in Early Modern English, which was not spoken for over two hundred years before the time of the Book of Mormon. If God spoke to Americans, why would He use a language that was not used in common speech? No other prophet in history did anything like this. Smith clearly had presuppositions about this type of language, that it was holier than the common language.
Joseph Smith had several wives. Wouldn’t this be the drive in the era he was in to condone his polygamy? I believe this was his motivation to start Mormonism in the first place. He was simply a sex addict. Think about all of the people who opposed Joseph Smith. He was booted out of places, and they regarded him as a liar themselves. For what reasons? The same reasons anyone would, because they saw that he was seeking only to serve his own desires.
Joseph Smith died in a gunfight, and it seems that prophets of God, many of them becoming martyrs, would not have had guns in their possession other than for hunting (if guns existed at the times of the prophets), if they really trusted in God. How many prophets in the Bible fought for their lives other than with words? Imagine Jesus with a gun. It is laughable, because it would not have happened. A history of Joseph Smiths death was written by the 8th governor of Illinois:  

An attempt was made to break open the door but Joe Smith being armed with a six barrelled pistol furnished by his friends fired several times as the door was bursted open and wounded three of the assailants At the same time several shots were fired into the room by some of which John Taylor received four wounds and Hiram Smith [Joseph’s brother] was instantly killed Joe Smith now attempted to escape by jumping out of the second story window but the fall so stunned him that he was unable to rise and being placed in a sitting posture by the conspirators below they despatched him with four balls shot through his body (History of Illinois from its commencement as a state in 1818 TO 1847 Thomas Ford, Chicago: SC GRIGGS & CO 1854, 354).

So Smith shot people up, stole men’s wives, made a wrong-era language translation of a book that has no archaeological evidence to support it whatsoever, taught radical doctrines never heard of before in theology, and the list goes on. It seems that the reason Mormonism grew is because he was the type of man who had an answer for everything, and was better than most at keeping track of his lies. Unfortunately for Mormonism, Smith couldn’t keep track of all of his lies, and eventually they caught up with him and an angry mob exterminated him. It is only Smith’s successors who continued to elevate him to a higher status, because they also saw the benefits of Mormonism, which was being able to justify the feeding of their similar lack of self-control.
Joseph Smith was an atheist because he took notice to the trusting naivety of his contemporary fellow man, and through manipulation, convinced a handful of them that he was more than a storyteller in order to get what he wanted. He was an atheist because he was living according to his worldview, which does whatever is desired, because nothing mattered in his eyes. To him, there were no gods to answer to, no judges to face, and thus, he manipulated the world around him to do what he did best, use women as objects.
Mormonism is specifically a man’s religion, much like Islam. It all points toward endless amazing sex for the Muslim. What about women? What do they get? To share one husband among a crowd of women? I’m sure that this sounds like an extremely exciting eternity for women, but realistically, it seems like it would get old after the first few thousand millennia.
Mormonism is not far from this. When you die (if you are a good-enough Mormon man), you can populate your own planet with endless celestial sex, in the same way Mormons teach that God has done on this planet. Again, what about women? Nothing but objects. Objects that their husbands supposedly love, but nonetheless, objects. What do they have to look forward to in eternity? Objectification. Baby machines.
Joseph Smith was clearly an atheist. He didn’t believe that he would have to answer for these kinds of things. In the book of James, chapter three, the Bible teaches us that not many of us should become teachers because teachers will receive a harsher judgment. If Smith read this (which most Mormons believe he was at minimum, a biblical scholar), then he would know that if he taught things which were wrong, he would receive harsher judgment. Otherwise, we have reason to believe that if he read James, he did not believe anything it said. Teachers receive harsher judgment because by teaching, they claim to be experts on what they teach. If you are teaching theology or doctrine, then you claim to have expertise on the subject. The fact that Joseph Smith did teach enormous amounts of doctrine which clearly disagrees with what the Bible teaches, he is claiming to be an authority on the subject of theology (through revelation), at the least. As such, we can conclude that he either doesn’t care what the Bible says, which, through the eyes of Pascal, would be a serious violation of wagering, or that he doesn’t believe what the Bible says, which would make him, for the most part, an atheist. Lacking morality and manipulating those around him to feed his sexual desire, brings a conclusion that Smith didn’t believe that he had to answer to a Just Judge.
In the trilemma that C.S. Lewis offers his readers in Mere Christianity, there are three choices: liar, lunatic or Lord. And because of His miracles, because of the things that the apostles said of Him and died for what they kept saying, we can conclude that Jesus is Lord. Joseph Smith, on the other hand, was probably not a lunatic, because he could clearly formulate thoughts. He was not a prophet, because of the reasons listed above (and a plethora of other reasons), but he was a liar. Why? Because he had the disease that is pandemic to most humans: He wanted to serve himself.

"15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits" --Matthew 7:15-20.
 

Written by Nace Howell through the grace of the Lord Jesus. 

© Nace Howell, 2022

Comments

  1. Thanks. This has been very helpful to me in witnessing to LDS. It's funny, but true.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thank you, Faye! I will be praying for your LDS encounters. God be with you!

      Delete

Post a Comment

Popular posts from this blog

How to Show a Mormon the Difference Between the Mormon Jesus and the Biblical Jesus

I find that Mormons frequently claim that they are Christians, and that they want to be referred to as Christians, and that they have even recently sought to distance themselves from the word “Mormon.” The problem is, they worship another Jesus, and here is how to show them the difference between the Mormon Jesus and the Biblical Jesus. Before we get to that, some clarifications are necessary. Specifically, that they cannot even distance themselves from being called "Mormons."   The Mormon President Russell Nelson said,    “What’s in a name or, in this case, a nickname? When it comes to nicknames of the Church, such as the “LDS Church,” the “Mormon Church,” or the “Church of the Latter-day Saints,” the most important thing in those names is the absence of the Savior’s name. To remove the Lord’s name from the Lord’s Church is a major victory for Satan. When we discard the Savior’s name, we are subtly disregarding all that Jesus Christ did for us—even His Atonement.” [1] ...

Objectivity is the Language of Heaven

NDErs (i. e. people who have claimed to have had a   Near Death Experience ) often report that when they go to Heaven, they frequently see and recognize people such as friends and family members. It is often also reported that when they were communicating with friends and relatives, they realized that they weren’t speaking English, but that they were telepathically speaking to one another.   It seems it would be impossible to have communication with others without learning every language that has ever existed under the sun, but since heaven is a perfect place, [1]  then communication should be perfect as well. In other words, it seems unlikely that there are barriers to communication. So, I should be able to communicate with the Apostles, upon my arrival for instance, but how? I personally only really know how to speak English fluently. My Spanish, Japanese, German, Russian, Chinese, and Latin is like that of a child, and my Greek is only in reading and writing.  If ...

The Dividing Line of Doctrine

How and Where to Make Divisions... Sometimes, I get asked “Why do you get so up at arms about other religions?” or, “Why do you pick on other religions so much?” I think the following will help you see where I’m coming from, before I spill the beans on such.   We have difficulty sometimes in discovering where to make divisions when considering where to spend our money, and who to support, where to make purchases, and where not to do such. We also often have difficulty on how to know if a church or a congregation is a place where someone can actually become saved. Like, how can we know that a Mormon is likely not saved but we can know that a regular church attender at a gospel sound church is likely saved? What is it that would make my church attendance at a specific body no longer appropriate? Both answers to these questions deal with doctrine. If a company is pushing false doctrine using their influence and power to push a heretical doctrine or teaching, this is often when the red...

The Highest Virtue

A virtue is a trait of excellence. What is the highest virtue? It seems that based on the nature of truth, that truth itself is perhaps the highest virtue. For instance, I could say that love is the highest virtue, but then I could ask the question of whether that is true or not. If it is or isn’t true, this places truth virtuously higher than love, at least in some sense. The fact that I can question love through the lens of truth seems to place truth above love in height of virtue. On the other hand, if I said that truth is the highest virtue, then it seems that it would be loving to tell others the truth! Perhaps truth and love go hand in hand, but this also concerns the nature of what truth is.  Truth is a requirement for love, which I argue here , but is love a requirement for truth? Love must contain truth in order to be  true  love. But truth does not have to contain love in order to be true truth. Take for instance, mathematics, or numbers in general… Sometimes, t...

Self-tests of Some of the World's Religions

It is fairly common for a religion of the world to give itself a sort of test for truth, since this is one question that is asked of any religion: “Why should I believe what you are telling me is true?” After all, the answer to such a question will ultimately result in followers of specific beliefs and doctrines, let alone religions, or will result in a lack of followers.  If a religion can answer this question posed by seekers and thinkers, and therefore train its adherents to be able to answer why a religion is true, this will inevitably help people believe in such, even if the claims are false. If there is no answer, this is where a religion will perhaps find more trouble for itself.  Many religions make an appeal to a higher authority, namely,  God , for the veracity of their existence and as a result, no one can question the truth from such an authority. This is correct in a sense, that  if in fact God is making such a claim, then what is said or stated is true ...

Who Made God? Identifying Categorical Errors

A category is simply a distinct class to which something belongs… A set of objects that can be treated as equal in some way. A Macintosh apple belongs to the category, apple, and not what we categorize as an orange. Similarly, colors are in a different category than taste.   When we say, “apples and oranges” what we mean is that there has been a confusion of categories. Sure, they are both fruit, but when you examine both, there is an obvious difference. An apple is not an orange, and an orange is not an apple. Macintosh, Granny Smith, and red delicious are all apples. Navel, blood, and Valencia are all oranges. To mix the two, for instance, to call a navel orange an apple, would be a categorical error, sometimes referred to as a category mistake.      How Identifying Categorical Errors can Help with Apologetics It seems that simply learning about or being reminded of categorical errors can help us be more aware of them. We have all heard or thought of ourselves, the...

The Evidence and Power of Testimony

What to say to People who Demand more Evidence for God. Why is there something rather than nothing? Glacier National Park. © Nace Howell, 2018. The question is, how much evidence do you require? Would Jesus have to come back and slap you in the face with evidence that He is God? It seems to me that there is a line we must draw. We do this in all other areas of our lives, so why would we treat theism any different? When a court convicts, they do so “beyond a reasonable doubt.” I would like to take a few moments to explore this a bit. But before we get to that, I want to pose a question, which is… why are you the standard? What makes you think He has to prove His existence to everyone individually? He already created the universe from nothing. In the beginning, there was a big bang. Seriously… do you believe your mom when she tells you a story about her day? Did you believe the reports of 9/11 when they were happening? Do you accept the testimony of anything you hear on social ...

The Two Systems: A Confused Definition of Love

A couple years ago I wrote an article called  the Jehovah’s Witness training videos . The article was meant to be humorous in a sense, because there are likely not any actual training videos, but it seems that they have all watched them. We can suspect this because they all often have the same points of conversation. When you talk about the Trinity, they will use the Bible like a machine gun and shoot you with verses. The verses are always the same: Colossians 1:15, Mark 10:18… So, there is an implication that they all have the same information. There is one source from where they gather their patterns and behaviors. Similarly, I think we can see the power behind the system of the world as well. We can see what this power is like by the tracks he leaves behind. The contrast of the two systems is really seen in Revelation 14:8. “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.” John is using the word  Bab...

Two Problems Jesus has with the Mormon Doctrine of Eternal Families

Mormonism teaches that those who are married in a temple can be married for eternity. In Doctrine and Covenants 132:15–20, we find the following:   15 Therefore, if a man marry him a wife in the world, and he marry her not by me nor by my word , and he covenant with her so long as he is in the world and she with him, their covenant and marriage are not of force when they are dead , and when they are out of the world; therefore, they are not bound by any law when they are out of the world. 16 Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in marriage; but are appointed angels in heaven, which angels are ministering servants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory. 17 For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are angels of God for...

Baptism is Not Necessary for Salvation According to the Early Church

Let’s dive right in. The Bible says in Acts 2:37-41,    Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.   The phrase in Acts 2:38 that reads, “for the forgiveness of your sins” modifies the word repentance, not the word baptism.  See more about this Here .   What is interesting is that those who translate the above verse as meaning that baptism is a requ...